The fiery clash between Douglas Murray and Dave Smith on Joe Rogan’s podcast exposed a growing split in conservative circles. Murray, a staunch defender of Israel, blasted Rogan for letting comics and armchair analysts pretend to be experts on wars and pandemics. Smith shot back that everyday Americans don’t need fancy degrees to question the failed “experts” who botched COVID and foreign policy.
Murray didn’t hold back. He accused Rogan of spreading dangerous half-truths by hosting conspiracy theorists posing as historians. When Smith argued free speech means anyone can challenge the elite, Murray fired: “Ignorance isn’t a virtue.” His message? Real expertise saves lives—like his boots-on-the-ground reporting in Gaza.
But Rogan turned the tables days later. He mocked Murray’s elitism, noting even he isn’t a Middle East scholar. “Since when does an English degree make you the expert?” Rogan asked. True patriots know credentials don’t trump common sense. The people see through Ivy League blowhards who look down on hardworking Americans.
Smith, a libertarian comic, became the voice of the fed-up everyman. Why should trust fund academics lecture us about war when they’ve never worn a uniform? Real wisdom comes from lived experience, not some overpriced diploma. The establishment hates that podcasters like Rogan let regular folks bypass their gatekeepers.
Murray later doubled down. “Experts failed us on COVID and Ukraine,” he admitted. But abandoning knowledge entirely? That’s how civilizations collapse. His book warns that dismissing experts lets tyrants like Hamas rewrite history. Weakness invites chaos—strength demands respecting those who actually know the facts.
Glenn Beck, a fan of both men, sees the heart of the fight. Murray’s right: We can’t let TikTok rebels trash centuries of Western knowledge. But Smith’s right too: The “expert class” betrayed us. True conservatism balances wisdom and skepticism. Listen to those with real skin in the game, not desk jockeys pushing agendas.
This isn’t just a debate—it’s a war for the soul of the Right. Globalists like Murray want order and tradition. Populists like Smith want to burn it all down. Both sides agree on one thing: America must stand firm against enemies. But weakness starts when we attack our own. United we thrive. Divided, the left wins.
Patriots know the answer. Reject the elitists who scorn you, but don’t glorify ignorance. Honor the warriors and thinkers who defend truth. Let’s debate fiercely, then stand shoulder-to-shoulder against the real threat: a woke left that hates Israel, free speech, and you. That’s how we save America.
